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#1 2011-01-14 22:37:10

esCo456
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Bad People On this Site Causing Mayhem

I've been coming to this site for 2 years now and I've gotten to know a lot of cool people. I've watched some of the best uploaders on the site leave for various reasons.

In all that time it's been peaceful and people come here for enjoyment.

Well in the past few weeks there's been a few people, making new accounts, and harassing the people that do a lot of the uploading here. And it seems like they can do and say whatever they want...

If anyone looks at these profiles and comments you'll see these trolls making threats and generally harassing people. These people contribute nothing to the site and are just annoying people.

So I've been here for 2 years and literally in the past few weeks have seen these people pop out of nowhere and seem to be able to just spam people's pages and say whatever they want and get away with it. This isn't FaceBook. And these people are obviously very young, probably juveniles; what are they doing here? They provide nothing to the site except grief for the uploaders. So many great uploaders have left and now there's really just a small group of uploaders that keep this site going and spend a lot of time uploading.

Am I the only one that finds it odd that trolls that are obviously juveniles, bitter angry losers for the most part, shown more deference than the people that keep this site filled with content???


"Believe in none of what you hear and half of what you see"... - Assata Shakur

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#2 2011-01-15 00:12:34

esCo456
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Re: Bad People On this Site Causing Mayhem

Here's a great example... This guy has numerous accounts and his latest was opened on the 13th... This is what his profile says... So he's not even here to use StageVu and is promoting another site and just look at what he says!

http://www.watch-movies-tv.info/users/udummmuppet/

Is where I can be found! I am ranked No.10 user Because I am an authority on film/cinema

I am the most controversial and outspoken person to ever come online, I say what I think, and I do what I say.

I take no prisoners in my frank and forthright comments. I rule "watch-movies" It is all about me. Nobody and no one can stop me because I am Udummmuppet.

Any haters who don't like my comments stop crying about it.


----- No one cares about this person or their page. The problem is he's posting threats and trash on other peoples profiles. Someone that talks like this is a delusional loser... And probably a minor... Why are people like this given any credence on this sight?


"Believe in none of what you hear and half of what you see"... - Assata Shakur

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#3 2011-01-15 00:27:51

esCo456
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Re: Bad People On this Site Causing Mayhem

Funny cause I went to that site and the message reads:

"As of today, this site will no longer provide movies for viewing. We are transiting from movie links into a movie community that has a great format for in depth movie discussions...We hope you bear with us and join us in the very near future...We value all our members and hope to see you at the new site very soon. Please do not see CLONED look-a-like sites and think it is this site, many will attempt to fool people in this way.. The staff thanks you for bearing with us.."

You rule this particular sight? Never heard of it... But apparently it's finished so I suppose you're finished...

Do you realize how stupid you sound to people????? How delusional are you? Do you think people read that and are impressed? Get a life... You think you're an internet celebrity? LOL... Maybe you should go outside and try making some friends; in all seriousness I feel bad for you because obviously these corny statements would only be made by someone that doesn't have many friends or a worthwhile life, thus the internet persona you have created... But in real life, aka, reality - I pity you...


"Believe in none of what you hear and half of what you see"... - Assata Shakur

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#4 2011-01-15 06:08:45

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Re: Bad People On this Site Causing Mayhem

Please do not give this loser (udummmuppet) any more attention in this forum because you are just giving them what they want. Especially when you post the link to their shitty website because you are basically promoting their website for them.

It almost makes me think that you (esCo456) and (udummmuppet), are the same person.

I'm just sayin'

100thMonkey

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#5 2011-01-15 06:59:26

esCo456
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Re: Bad People On this Site Causing Mayhem

Well I'm specifically pointing out this person so how would anyone know who or what I was talking about otherwise. I've been a member here longer than you so your theory doesn't make much sense.

This is suggestions for the admins so this is the proper place to put it. I copied and pasted his profile to show that he's just a troublemaker and promoting another site.

And if you took a second to check my page you'd obviously see I'm not the same person and wouldn't make such a dopey accusation.

I'm just sayin'

Last edited by esCo456 (2011-01-15 07:02:46)


"Believe in none of what you hear and half of what you see"... - Assata Shakur

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#6 2011-01-16 07:45:27

El Phoenix
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Re: Bad People On this Site Causing Mayhem

I have reported all of the offensive comments of this udummmuppet guy that he has written to the uploaders and other users on the StageVU. I hope he will be removed from this site very soon.

And @100th Monkey: I don't think esCo456 is the same guy as udummmuppet!!!

Regards

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#7 2011-01-19 03:59:42

100thMonkey
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Re: Bad People On this Site Causing Mayhem

esCo456 wrote:

Well I'm specifically pointing out this person so how would anyone know who or what I was talking about otherwise. I've been a member here longer than you so your theory doesn't make much sense.

This is suggestions for the admins so this is the proper place to put it. I copied and pasted his profile to show that he's just a troublemaker and promoting another site.

And if you took a second to check my page you'd obviously see I'm not the same person and wouldn't make such a dopey accusation.

I'm just sayin'

I am sorry, my apologies. I should have checked out your SV page.


Jan 19 2011
UPDATE: Udummmuppet's channel is finally gone!

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#8 2011-01-20 09:27:47

ken from Canada
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Re: Bad People On this Site Causing Mayhem

Great that muppet fool is gone - but - what about the 3 other profiles that MUST be the same fool? This site logs IP's, and admin has been involved in forum postings about banning based on them. AND THANK YOU ADMIN FOR SOME RECENT POSTED ANSWERS.
Please keep this site the great place it is. No, I don't want censorship. But, if let's say several members individually complain about someone, ban that person. Or, e-mail them, you have their valid emails, and give them a chance to respond. By the time you do the math, it is really only 2 or 3 bozo's whom are the main culprits.

Thanks again admin

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#9 2011-01-20 18:54:16

esCo456
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Re: Bad People On this Site Causing Mayhem

Pretty much every site/forum logs ip addys. Anyone with admin access can view the ip or ips of a member. Also depends if the IP is static or not. I remember checking people that had lots of ips logged so in those cases can usually ban the first half of ip addy and if their addy changes typically it's only the second half so would block them regardless of ip.

Problem is I don't think there's anyway for admin to cross check ip addys and users and be able to see who has multiple accounts. If would have to be manually done so would take forever. But if someone posts here for example - "the following accounts are same people/spammers with multiple accounts, xxxx, xxxx, and xxxx" They can then check those profiles and see if they're from the same ip...

That's not to say there's ways around this that aren't secrets and well known to anyone that knows the internet but I won't mention it lol wink

Anyway, they got rid of this guy so all is well. If he continues opening accounts, just report/ignore him...


"Believe in none of what you hear and half of what you see"... - Assata Shakur

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#10 2011-01-20 21:09:47

ken from Canada
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Re: Bad People On this Site Causing Mayhem

OK - this is exactly the shit I mean:

Streetfighter Girl wrote 3 days ago:
someone please help i can't get king of horror to stop following my messages to friends hes pissing me off with his stalking ways

Now, this legit member has disabled commenting on 'her' page. THIS IS CRAP!!! Part of the appeal of Stagevu is the public banter back and forth. Why does Streetfighter have to go to these measures. "She" knows about the block user button, I am sure. So what is this idiot 'horror' doing to get past Admin security?

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#11 2011-01-20 21:13:21

ken from Canada
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Re: Bad People On this Site Causing Mayhem

Yeh, I know, EACH and every person Streetfighter knows has to block this idiot. WHY? ADMIN, START BANNING THESE BOZO'S PLEASE. PUT AN OLDER TIME MEMBER LIKE esCo456 ON SOME SORT OF WATCH FOR ADMIN AND LET HIM HELP -HE SEEMS TO KNOW A LOT ABOUT THIS.

Sorry esCo456, I didn't ask you first, but you seem to be knowledgeable and someone has to help Admin!!

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#12 2011-01-20 21:44:39

Mephisto
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Re: Bad People On this Site Causing Mayhem

http://stagevu.com/user/Streetfighter

Is gone.

If people are stalking there are laws to deal with that.

Last edited by Mephisto (2011-01-20 21:45:22)

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#13 2011-01-20 23:01:15

esCo456
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Re: Bad People On this Site Causing Mayhem

Mephisto wrote:

If people are stalking there are laws to deal with that.

True... But on the internet especially here it's like calling the cops because a drug dealer stole your loot and didn't give you the dope lol. So kinda got to police the site ourselves. Believe me, like I said I ran a big site just like this back in the day, and it wouldn't work without everyone pitching in. Back then, I had to keep the site running, my focus was coding and trying to keep the site up... I don't know how things work today but back then I never got a friendly email from the man or companies about CR stuff on site... Those emails were no joke... So a lot of time was spent keeping things on the down low. And I can understand people mad about movies being removed but that's something back then I wouldn't even be focused on. You have no idea the risk and time spent limiting risk when you're in control of the site... I don't want to be too specific but things get hot... We're pretty lucky to have a site like this that for the most part is fast and is always up.

I appreciate your vote of confidence Ken... If the admins want any help I'd be glad to help. But knowing how the site is setup (have an idea at least) not sure what that would entail. Forums like this are easy to run for example... But the main SV site is something totally different.

As far as SV main site, it's a big site with a lot of traffic. I'm not sure how the system delegates users... The admin are a mystery because that's the way it's supposed to be lol... Look at LymeWire, Napster, etc, etc, etc... And I really don't think anyone's profiting off this site...

Anyway, even though I been here a long time it takes a lot more than that to trust someone to hand over the keys to the kingdom. To give someone the power to delete people would also give them total access to the site, I would think, maybe there's a lesser upgrade that can let people delete posts, users, stuff like that but who knows... This is a custom setup so could only speculate...

In the future, I suggest people just report these users and ignore them. Delete their posts, don't respond, and they'll go away or be removed. These people setup these profiles and spam a few people and they get 100 posts back. So it just continues. If people paid no attention to them and just deleted their posts (if on your profile) and don't respond they'll probably stop.

Like I said, when I ran my site I was focused on keeping it up, so be patient because a lot of work goes into just keeping the site up, and it's hard to monitor such a big site much less keep track of every dispute/incident. Because you can't just go around deleting people, you wanna make sure someone didn't just name them to get them banned, so takes some time. I relied on the admins and mods to pay attention to the site itself and stuff like that.

One last thing I wanna point out, the policy here is that this is an all ages site. So you can't upload pornography for example. So there's a lot of underage members on the site. Some have posted their pics as avatar. Sometimes I've noticed lewd comments directed towards these underage people... That's messed up. But it can't be prevented but can be reported.

So my point is, just keep being vigilante and report these users. Without members pointing them out and providing info if they have multiple accounts that you know of the admin probably has no idea. Members gotta police the site themselves and take the time to point something out if something is wrong.

And I hope the underage girls I've seen targeted by older men are smart enough to ignore them... Probably a bad idea to post a picture of yourself, especially if you're a younger female, it's unfortunate but just the way of the world...


"Believe in none of what you hear and half of what you see"... - Assata Shakur

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#14 2011-01-21 01:13:16

ken from Canada
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Re: Bad People On this Site Causing Mayhem

Very well written responce, thanks. Don't know where you are, but its late here in Canada, and I'm off to bed - with one last point. Re: the older men/younger women on the site. I have had this talk privately with another StageVu member, female. I see one member here who 'pounces' on each site that appears to be a female.
lol;
I have traveled a lot of the world, and almost have been fooled IN PERSON by 'a women-who wasn't'. Lot easier to pull it off on line, and with a picture cloned off an obscure site somewhere.
hahahahahahahahahahaha to some fools on Stagevu.
lolololololololololol

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#15 2011-01-27 14:41:21

ken from Canada
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Re: Bad People On this Site Causing Mayhem

norris 84 wrote 36 minutes ago:
ken leave the little girls alone on stagevu you kiddie fiddler

So, another idiot surfaces - no friends, no favourites, no videos uploaded - see a pattern. I wonder which muppet/00 nothing incarnation this is.

PLEASE DON'T CONFUSE THIS norris 84 with norris 86 - I am sure they aren't the same. I am requesting from Admin the IP of this norris, I regard this as slander - and since I post a VALID email on my site - I may be able to make it stick.
Having a lot of legal resources handy, let's see if this fool really wants to play ball.
lol.

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#16 2011-01-27 19:35:39

ken from Canada
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Re: Bad People On this Site Causing Mayhem

Thank you admin - seems this norris84 is the coward we knew and disappeared. lol - I have faith in another incarnation.

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#17 2011-02-19 05:02:14

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Re: Bad People On this Site Causing Mayhem

Don't feed the troll, report, ignore and move on it's just that simple.


"We are masters of the unsaid words, but slaves of those we let slip out" -Winston Churchill

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#18 2011-02-20 01:44:34

esCo456
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Re: Bad People On this Site Causing Mayhem

FmzExposed wrote:

Don't feed the troll, report, ignore and move on it's just that simple.

I love idiots like you that just registered a few days ago, the site has been up for years, LOL... YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T GET IT DUMBASSS... I consider anyone a troll that's registered since there's been no content on the site... Report, ignore, move on... I've suggested that... But people with mental problems just keep opening new accounts and harassing people. And frankly the admin doesn't have time to deal with this nonsense... But I just love it when trolls/newbies give advice about something they have no idea about.... And these people want us to give them links to other sites? You're the last person anyone would share a site with. You're lucky there's some uploaders still here so you can download free shit... I wouldn't count on this lasting though considering the lack of respect for the upoaders and the influx of trolls...


"Believe in none of what you hear and half of what you see"... - Assata Shakur

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#19 2011-02-20 03:30:26

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Re: Bad People On this Site Causing Mayhem

Ohhh im sorry mr great king of the internet i didnt realise how easy it is to upset you. Does it look like im a troll ? you could search this whole site and find nothing apart from thanks for uploading.

i offered simple advice and you threw it back in my face. go fuck yourself, you rant and cry beause somebody on the internet said some bad things boo hoo GROW UP!


"We are masters of the unsaid words, but slaves of those we let slip out" -Winston Churchill

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#20 2011-02-21 04:42:40

SeattleIsFullOpodPeople
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Re: Bad People On this Site Causing Mayhem

FmzExposed wrote:

Ohhh im sorry mr great king of the internet i didnt realise how easy it is to upset you. Does it look like im a troll ? you could search this whole site and find nothing apart from thanks for uploading.

i offered simple advice and you threw it back in my face. go fuck yourself, you rant and cry beause somebody on the internet said some bad things boo hoo GROW UP!

Lol 

Don't worry about this guy FmzWxposed, he's just some brown nosing nutcase wanna-be administrator who's deluded himself into thinking he's some kind of authority because he used to run a site in college or something. He seems fond of telling everyone "whats what" due to this, but more often than not comes up looking like an ass from  giving inaccurate info.
Aside from kissing up to the admins (and anyone whose actually uploaded stuff) and telling people in the forums that whats going on with the site is "none of their business" (even though the contributors here are responsible for the majority of the content) it seems his favorite pastime is crying about how people are doing this or that to him (persecution complex).

Seriously, this nut said I was stalking HIM even though he showed up in a thread I commented in after I posted and proceeded to cry about.. ah god knows what. Cant even be bothered to look back on these threads any more because he's in every single one. I could go on, but all anyone needs to do is read even one of his posts to know there's some serious issues going on in his head. I'm sure hes probably a well meaning guy who just doesn't get "it." In any case, its a bit hypocritical of him to be saying anything about anyone being a short timer here, being as he';s one himself and he just uploaded the sparse collection of vids hes got about 2 -3 weeks ago (check his page and vids if you can be bothered to). Of course his claim is hes here now for 2 years. I normally wouldn't give a rat's ass, but the guy has really made himself into a bug. Anyway thats the low down for you or anyone else reading this. Though you dont need to take my word for it, the proof is ALL OVER THE FORUMS.

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#21 2011-02-21 09:10:39

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Re: Bad People On this Site Causing Mayhem

SeattleIsFullOpodPeople wrote:

FmzExposed wrote:

Ohhh im sorry mr great king of the internet i didnt realise how easy it is to upset you. Does it look like im a troll ? you could search this whole site and find nothing apart from thanks for uploading.

i offered simple advice and you threw it back in my face. go fuck yourself, you rant and cry beause somebody on the internet said some bad things boo hoo GROW UP!

Lol 

Don't worry about this guy FmzWxposed, he's just some brown nosing nutcase wanna-be administrator who's deluded himself into thinking he's some kind of authority because he used to run a site in college or something. He seems fond of telling everyone "whats what" due to this, but more often than not comes up looking like an ass from  giving inaccurate info.
Aside from kissing up to the admins (and anyone whose actually uploaded stuff) and telling people in the forums that whats going on with the site is "none of their business" (even though the contributors here are responsible for the majority of the content) it seems his favorite pastime is crying about how people are doing this or that to him (persecution complex).

Seriously, this nut said I was stalking HIM even though he showed up in a thread I commented in after I posted and proceeded to cry about.. ah god knows what. Cant even be bothered to look back on these threads any more because he's in every single one. I could go on, but all anyone needs to do is read even one of his posts to know there's some serious issues going on in his head. I'm sure hes probably a well meaning guy who just doesn't get "it." In any case, its a bit hypocritical of him to be saying anything about anyone being a short timer here, being as he';s one himself and he just uploaded the sparse collection of vids hes got about 2 -3 weeks ago (check his page and vids if you can be bothered to). Of course his claim is hes here now for 2 years. I normally wouldn't give a rat's ass, but the guy has really made himself into a bug. Anyway thats the low down for you or anyone else reading this. Though you dont need to take my word for it, the proof is ALL OVER THE FORUMS.

Couldnt of explained him better myself good sir. I only reply to him to see him turn into a screaming todler, it brightens my day.


"We are masters of the unsaid words, but slaves of those we let slip out" -Winston Churchill

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#22 2011-02-22 01:16:53

esCo456
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Re: Bad People On this Site Causing Mayhem

I've already accomplished my mission smile

Just like I expected smile

Yeah the proof is all in the forums...


"Believe in none of what you hear and half of what you see"... - Assata Shakur

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#23 2011-02-24 10:08:08

SeattleIsFullOpodPeople
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Re: Bad People On this Site Causing Mayhem

esCo456 wrote:

I've already accomplished my mission smile

Just like I expected smile

Yeah the proof is all in the forums...

Proof of what? Your idiocy, ineptitude and hypocrisy?
If that was your goal then yes, "mission accomplished!"

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#24 2011-02-25 01:58:44

esCo456
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Re: Bad People On this Site Causing Mayhem

The proof is in the pudding wink


"Believe in none of what you hear and half of what you see"... - Assata Shakur

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#25 2011-02-26 02:01:46

SeattleIsFullOpodPeople
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Re: Bad People On this Site Causing Mayhem

esCo456 wrote:

The proof is in the pudding wink

I think "the pudding" is actually between your ears.

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